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Wednesday, May 23, 2012

GEORGE JAMES FORSYTH history

My grandfather, Neil Snow Forsyth - the second son of George James Forsyth, lived in our home when I was a teen. Mother's sewing machine shared his small bedroom and while I sewed he often sat on his bed telling stories of a time and life style I could only imagine. I did not know to write them down but others have kindly recorded much of the historical details for the Forsyth family. Transcription process detailed below *
 
Florence [Forsyth] Mercer, (Aunt Flo) grandfather's youngest

sister, wrote a short summary of her ancestors and a life sketch of her parents  in 1965. She was age 75. She summarized, "My Great Grandfather, Thomas Forsyth [1782-1821/2], with his wife and six children sailed from Greenrock Scotland on the ship 'Commerce' [1820]. They were 14 weeks and 4 days getting to Quebec. They then took passage up the St. Lawrence River to Montreal.

"After many hardships my Grandfather, also named Thomas [1813-1898], married Isabella Donald [1819-1852] in April 1839. They had 7 children, 3 sons and 4 daughters. In 1841 they left the County of Kent in Canada [on the north shore of Lake Erie] and moved to Galesburg, Michigan [east of Lake Michigan near modern day Kalamazoo].

George James and Sarah Sophronia Snow

"My father was born May 23 1844. In 1845 he was very sick and was healed by a Brother Richards blessing him. They joined the Latter Day Saints and moved to Salt Lake City in the summer of 1850. His mother died December 23, 1852 in Salt Lake with her 7th baby. His father married again and moved to Tookerville [Toquerville] (southern Utah) where the family grew to adulthood.

Florence also briefly summarized her mother's history and family. " My Mother's Mother, Sally Adams was also born in Eastern Canada in May 1825. She was married to William Snow in January 1846 and her first deep sorrow was the death of her mother in 1848. She and her husband with their year old daughter came to Salt Lake with the pioneers in 1850. My mother, Sarah, was born in Salt Lake City March 4, 1852. When Johnson's army came in 1858 William Snow and his family moved to Lehi. ..." 


NAME: George James Forsyth
Born: 23 May 1844 Port Huron, Michigan

Father:  Thomas Forsyth (1813-1898 )
      and Isobel Jackson 1789

Many records add R. as a middle initial or Robert as a middle name
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Mother:  Isabella Donald (1819-1852)
Daughter of George Donald 1793/1797
            and Jeanetta Taylor 1798


Thomas Forsyth (b.1813) wrote an autobiography in 1896 at age 83. " [Mother] was very sickly and the doctors advised my father that a change of climate was the only thing that would do her any good. So he concluded to go to America and in the spring of 1820 we sailed from Greenock [Scotland] in the ship Commerce. We were about 14 weeks and four days in getting to Quebec. The steam boat came along side and took passengers up the St. Lawrence River to Montreal, from which place we were taken by carts to Brockville and then to Perth [Ontario], a town 20 miles from Lanark, the county town, our destination. ...  Now when we landed in Perth, or shortly after, my mother died in that town [1820]...

"My oldest brother [Robert] and sister [Christena] went to work as soon as they got the family settled and a little land cleared off for father to put in some crop. This was, I think, in 1821 or 1822. But our family misfortunes had not ceased yet, for my father was killed by a tree falling on him. ... [Thomas was 8 or 9 years old.]
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"The death of my father called my brother and sister home but in those days it took a long time to get the news to them. There was no telegraph then. There was scarcely any horses to be seen and very bad roads and in many parts no roads at all but only trees marked or blazed, as we called it, in sight of each other from one place to another through the trees. Well, in a few years my brother and sister got married, each taking two of us younger ones. 

"It fell my lot to go with my brother. Shortly after he married he moved to Montreal where he worked at his trade on the great Catholic church in that city, being superintendent of one half of the building. The main building covered one acre of ground. it required one month labor of one of the best mechanics to make one window sash. ..."

"In the spring of 1839, I got married to Isabella Donald, daughter of George and Jennet Taylor Donald, both of Lanark, Canada West. They crossed the ocean with us and was my father's nearest nabor at the time of his death. ...
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In May 1839 I moved in company with my mother-in-law and family to the London district, county of Kent, Canada West, tuck up 200 acres of land and afterwards I bought another 100 acres. I run a sawmill, a mully mill, at Port Sarnia for Durant, during surplus water sission [season?] two years. In 1841 I went back to Sorel,... a port on the [south side of] the St. Lawrence River where two of my sisters were living ... to collect money I loned in 1838, but failed to get it. I went to work in a shipyard to get money to take me back home. 
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" ... I had to take our pasage on a sailing vesel to save money. Coming up lake ontario the capton had to call at osswego and we ware wind-bound for several days there. As soon as the weather would admit the captian put to sea near night but we had not been out to sea long before a heavy gaile struck us and the vesel rolled and pitched terable. I slept in the hold and ...Sometimes I was nearly on my feet in bed and then on my head or nearly so. but towards morning ... I got up and went on deck and found the captian alone, trying to manage the vessel alone. He said he was glad to see me and asked, 'Can you take the wheel or manage the boom?' for his sailors were all seasick and could not come on deck.
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"We were very near the Canada shore and running as close to the wind as posable. We had hard work to keep her off land and was runing almost on her broadside to kep off the land. Shortly after daylight, the wind fell considerable and we [made] Port Hamilton the next day and found out the main mast was sprung and we had to lay by to put in another which tuck 2 or 3 days. Then we went through the Wellenton Canal into Lake Erie and had a pleasant time  'til we landed at Port Sarnia near the outlet of lake huron and 7 miles from my home.

"That fall or next spring [1841/2] my sister Christian wrot me a letter that she had receved a letter from my uncle Jeames in Scotland. I wrot to her to send me his letter. When I receved it I wrote to him all the particulers about our family from the time we left Scotland up to that time and also for all of our agese, as we non of us knew our age. 

"... In due time I receved his answer with all of our agese but one in it and also his request for me to let him know what the latter day saints were doing. he said, 'You will know them. Joseph Smith is the head one of them.' I neaver had hard of the Latter Day Saints til he asked me that question in his letter.

"In order to answer all his questons, I began to enquire how these latter day saints were and where they were. I could find out but very little about them but all I could learn of them I wrote to him. but the next year 1843 there was a mormon elder came to my motheringlaws place about 7 miles from my place and gave out notic he would hold a meating there. 

"I was at that time very onxoius to find out whether there was a God or not and there was any way to worship him. for all I could hear in that line was a mass of confussion to me. So when I heard of the mormon elder going to preach the next day (Sunday) I said I would go and hear him....

"We went to the meeting, heard the elder preach and I knew then and there that he preached the trouth and commenced to investagate it and soon was convinced that there was a god and that I had found that that I had been looking for and praying for. for I trouly had been praying for about two years for this very thing, ...

"There was grat opposision to that elder in this place. However I mead preparations to move west and came to kalamazoo[?], mishagan. at a place caled gailsburg, 9 miles east of Kalamazoo and went to work there. I could not hear of any latter day saints for a long time." 

Note: this is near the time that George James Forsyth was born in May 23, 1844.
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"At last on the 4th of August 1844 I told my wife I was going to hunt up some Mormons if there were any in the country. So I started South not knowing where I was going. I traveled til ... seeing a team coming ... I went on to met it and asked the driver if he knew of any mormon meatings in that part. ... He said, 'Take the first road leading to your rite hand and go on about two miles and you will find a meating ... but when I came to the road going to the rite I only had to go about 50 or 60 rods to find the place I was hunten for. I was baptized that day, August 4, 1844 by M.E. Webb. 

"... When the people of Gailsburg found out that I had joined the mormons they were very much excited and some came to perswed me not to go to nauvou. when I came home from being baptized I brought with me a bundle of Joseph Smiths vews of the powrs and polacies of the United States goverment and distrabuted them, which caused conciderable excitment, some very much in favor ... others condeming them only becaus the[y] were of mormon origion.

"...In the winter of 1844 and 1845 when they Elders were sent out from nauvou to collect tithing to finish the temple thair F.D. Richards came to the district where I lived on that business and Bishop David Evens, going to Pen.[nsylvania] stoped with me a few days to recrut himself I paid to bro. Richards one tenth of all I was worth to the shirt on my back. I let him draw the amount out of the two stores I was working for ... This mead my employers very mad and would have discharged me if they could have found any one to fil my place, but that they could not do. 

" My son George James was quite sick at that time with a geathering as larg as a goos egg on his jugular vain. I had Bro. Richards and bro. Webb lay hands on him and he was heald. this also excited the people and many came to see for themselves, for they did not beleve the boy could be cured. bro. Richards also laid his hands on my head and blessed me and said I was the only man in all his district that had paid a full tithing, that there would never be a principel [revealed] but what I would receve. ... I heave been offered many inducements to apostatize but I all ways told them that ofered such that I embraced the Gospel for the love of truth and I was going to see the end of it, God being my helper. 

"I had been working for nearly a year for two firms ... making potash. They were to pay me the money ... on the first of June 1845. ... When I asked for my pay [the owner] said he would pay me out of the store in goods, but no money. I declined to take goods as my contract said I was to be paid in money. I went to see if I could not compel him to pay me the money. I [was] told I could but that the law would alow him to keep me out of it for a year or more so I went back and ofered to take the goods but he said if I had taken the goods at first I could heave had them but now he would not pay me the goods." Here ends Thomas' record.

A brother of George James Forsyth, Thomas Robert Forsyth, just less than 4 years older than George, made a history that detailed many specific dates and aspects of the life they led. (Thomas Robert was born in 1840 so it is always easy to think of his age and subtract 4. This helps me imagine what life was like for George at specific ages.) He wrote: “My Mothers Brother Drove our one yoak oxen Teamn untill my Father overtook Us somewhare on the way. Mothers Brothers name was Neail Donald.  And he went west with the Batalion In Conmpany C and Died in Sandiago California in the hospitle

“While my Father and famiely went To Missouri for the winter of 1846 Coming Back up on to Cag [Keg] Creek 20 Miles below Knesvill or whare we  Left the fall before in 1846 and located In a French setelmant or mostly so As he could speak French and work At his traid repairing houses or building And by this means obtained corn and bacon And such things as we needed for the Winter

 “In the spring of 1847 we moved back Up to what was called Cag crick whare Thare was a few famielyes of the Saints who had settled.  this was 20 miles Below Canesvill on the Missouri river On the Eastside while florance or Winter quarters was on the west side Whare the main boddy of the saints ware Located Which was afterword called Florance

“Thair being saw a Mill on this Cag crik my Father Worked some at the mill and at farming untill he got some wagon timber seasoned when he again commenced making  new and repairing old wagons By putting new wood to the old irons untill the spring of 1850 crosing the Misouri 20 or 24 milles below Florence at  [?]arpeas Point so knowen by the Emigration saints

“We left the Misouri river some time In June and reached the Salt Lake Valley the 1of Oct 1850 after staying on the campgrond a few days we moved Into Bingham Kanion whare my Father Took the Job of cutting and hauling Logs for Archie Gardners Saw Mill located at west Jorden about 15 or 16 about miles East

Thomas Forsyth Family 1850 SLC Utah Territory US Census.
George James appears to be born in Canada and attended school with 2 sisters.

“From the timber two the mill we lived Thare all winter then moved back To the citty in the spring of 1851 and Locating In the west part of town on second south fifth west or near The old doby [brick] yard in the spring of 1851 Apr the 1 I think

“I was then in my 11 year up two then I Had onely atended two schools and they Ware in the years that we lived on Cag creek one taught by Miss bishop and one by Mrs Owens a widdo

“Now I … spent the greater part of the summer of 1851 In the kanion with my father as he followed That Buisness get out squre timber and Getting lumber In a generaly way as the public Required as well as shingles & stave fo coopers To make tubs and Barels and he made square timber For mills and Barnes & Bridges the winter Of  1851and 2 I spent mostley in school taugh by a Mr Cushe[?] on his way to  Calafornia

“In the year 1852 I comenced to drive team In company With Bro John Thomas who worked for my Father haweling lumber Pooles & wood In The fall I got kicked with a horse and was laid up for some time I went to Shool this 1852 winter but did not go all the time As my mother died Dec 23, 1852 and my Father was In the lumbering Business and Had to hire a girl to take care of us children we did not do much at it Father being away most of the time and  My Father had “Started to build quiate a big house [?] it Was 20 by 40 ft with a [l]ea 16 by 18 in the clear And he was quite a little In Det and These conditions with a hired girl that Had to be changed Two or three time during the next year Did not help him much

“So my father was in this condition until Aug 20 1853 when he maried Marry Browett an E[n]glish Laddy  durin this Summer I drove team hawling lumber shingles staves & wood until In the fall I Fell from a scaffold on the upper floor and went through two Pair of jois in two the Celor or bacement and was laid up For a long time but attended schoole this winter

“In the Earley Spring of 1854 I comenesed Halling logs to the mill from Bingham Kanion and during the sumer halled Some posts and Pools to fen[i]ce a peacs of land near Whites fort of 20 achors As my Father had taken up 160 acers thare  In the winter of  1854 and 1855 I atende school but as my Home surroundings had changed I  did Not have much Interest In school so when Ever I had a chance to work for some one or most any excuse I was not In School so my time this winter did not Amount to very much during this Winter …

“Now I had had any thought of bringing in The history of Utah into my life But as The Grashopers took most of  our cropes in 1854 It made Bread quite scarse in 1855 So that my Father never hired any Hands to work that sumer of 1855 until fall So my Brother and me halled pools posts and Put up fense but In the fall of 1855 Father and I With some hands comensed work in the Timber & I worked thare all winter in 1855 & 1856 We moved into Dry kanion whare we Peald 130 ton cords of  Bark In June of 1856 We commenced halling Bark we got $30 Dollars a cord for some And 25 for the rest near 130 cords and then we comensed Logging and got out the timber that we had Pealed The Bark from this dry kanion Is about [?] Miles north of Bingham we made the Road into this kanion in 1854  or commenced the road And worked in that kanion mostly for 3 or 4 years 

George James Forsyth was Baptized: 17 May 1856. 

He was age 11 and had his 12th birthday one week later. His brother Thomas Robert was baptized by their father at age 8 on 'Cag Crick, Ioway', (25 miles below Florence) but we do not have a record of who baptized George or where. Robert, at age 15, was asked by his Bishop to be ordained a deacon some time the previous fall or winter of 1855. They worked closely together at this time of their lives. Their mother had died a few months after George was 8 years old in 1852.

Lucy F Phelps shares a few additional details about her grandfather George James Forsyth as a young boy. "Thomas was left with six children to care for with the oldest, Thomas Robert being twelve years old, and the youngest Cornelius Donald, two years old.... George James was now only eight ...  He only went to school a few months during the winter for a few years. He needed to help his father in the canyon cutting logs. His teacher was very strict and knew very little so could not keep the children interested. He carried a whip and cane with which to punish anyone who disobeyed a rule. Many times he drew blood on the backs of boys who usually had only one shirt on. The bleeding would cause the shirt to stick to the sores when he hit them with the willow whip. George got the most because as time went on the boys realized he would take the blame for them and never say a word. He did not dare tell his step-mother because she would punish him again. Benjamin, his youngest brother, said that George was called Jakey Faithful because he always took the rap. [Thomas and Mary had 7 children, 3 boys and 4 girls - in the same sequence as his first family.]

Lucy also tells us that, "In 1859 Brigham Young got word that some immigrants on their way to Salt Lake were in desperate circumstances and needed help. He asked that anyone who had a wagon and team and a driver go and get them. Thomas sent his two older boys, Robert and George. They went twice in an eight month period. ... They returned the day before October Conference in 1861. At Conference, Brigham Young called some families to go to Dixie. Thomas Forsyth was among those on the list. As in the past when he was asked to do something by the Authorities he didn’t hesitate one minute. November 1st, they were on their way. They arrived in Santa Clara, December 15, 1861. As usual he looked for a mountain with pine trees on it to sustain him as he had done since a young man in Canada, Salt Lake, and now Pine Valley. George was seventeen years old. He did not care about the lumber business. His desire was with horses and cattle. He could find plenty of work helping on cattle ranches in the Pine Valley area.

"It was probably about this time that he got into a skirmish with some Indians and was shot in the ankle. To his dying day he had a limp and used a cane because of this. He may not have used a cane in his younger years but he always did when I knew him.

Before George got married he lived with his oldest brother, Robert in Pine Valley who was already married, when George was not on the range, he found all the work he wanted working for cattle men in the Pine Valley area. At first he took pay in cattle and horses. After he had acquired quite a large herd he and his father went into business together. They ran their cattle up Pine Valley Mountain which is to this day called Forsyth Canyon. The creek running down the mountain from where his father had his mill is named Forsyth Creek and the mill is called Forsyth Mill."

We read again from the autobiography of Thomas Robert Forsyth just after George's 13th birthday:“1857 We commenced Pealing Bark The last of May again having got out Several thousand Pine Pooles in the winter And spring of 1857  as well as all the log[?]s we had pealed before this thare was 4 of us Pealing and we pealed over 100 cords My Brother George cooked for us and He he[l]ped Us a little  We all went home for The 24 of July as the selabraton was In Big Cottenwood kanion that year …

1857 this celabration was Intended to be something out of the usueal As we had been in the valley 10 ten years And it was truly a grate time … [but] at noon on the 24   [men] arrived in cam[p] with The newes that the U S government … with 2500 troops [were being sent] to Repress the mormon Incerection that That never had Existed Based on [false reports] that They had Burned the Records of The then territory which ware found To be untrue on Examanation  the whole Camp returned to the citty in the Afternoon of the 24 & 25

“Soon after this I commenced Hawling bark & wood until Earley winter Whare I lay off until after new years When In Compeny with other yong Men I went out to Echo canion And staid thare as a gard all Winter while Johnsens armey Was at Fort briger that winter Came home in May 1858  Thare was not a Womman in Salt lake Citty they had All moved south My folks went to Lehi The armey came In and went Through the citty and camped over Jorden for a few days then they Moved on to Bingham crick and stayed Thare 8 or 10 Dayes then moved two Camp floid west of Utah lake About 40 miles from Salt lake City

“The year 1859 I worked loging and on the Farm south west of the citty and In 1860 I worked mostly logging and some on the farm  In Apr 1861 I started for The frontteer after Emagrants to florance On the Mosouria River getting home the 1 of October of 1861 and at conference My Father and famiely was caled Two the Diexie mishin or St George and started for Dixie In Nov 1861 In And arrived on the sante clara in Dec 15  Duering that winter Father Rented A Saw Mill In pinevalley and we moved up thair In febuary about the last  

Worked with my Brother George until the Middle of March wen I was called To go East to the fronteer after Emagrants Again I started the last of March 1862 With 7 yoak of oxen And returned To salt lake citty the first of Oct 1862 and to Pinevalley the first of Dec And came back to the santa clara for Christmas and spent the winter halling And fencing In some land and lots and building a house and Apr 15 1863 I married Miss Fredonia M Goheen of Washington …”

Isabelle F. Gardner, [Aunt Belle] a daughter of George James Forsyth documents more about the Forsyth family life and character in her history of her father. "Grandmother Mary was a very efficient woman in every way and a great worker.  She taught all the children the dignity of work.  The girls all learned to sew, so they could make their own clothes.  As fast as they got old enough to, they also learned to make buckskin gloves, a job at which Grandmother Mary was very efficient.  They always kept their home work done up well, but make lots of gloves for sale.  Every girl and every boy was taught to do all kinds of work that they would have to do in later life and to do it well.

"Both Grandfather and Grandmother were very strict and demanded strict obedience.  Father was a delicate child and until he was fourteen years old, did not grow as rapidly as most children do.  Grandfather believed that all children should be taught to work and share responsibilities, so although my father was small and delicate, he had his work to do.  But they did give him some of the easier jobs for his regular work.  One of these jobs was herding the milk cows, of which they had several, as Grandmother made butter to sell.  Sometimes he had to take dry cows out quite a ways from town and stay with them a few days so they would not come back home.  One spring he had to take the cows out and be gone three days.  Grandmother usually had a little flour in the house, but it was very scarce then, and they would go for days sometimes with very little or no bread.  This time he had only a bucket of cooked pig greens, or lamb quarters they were sometimes called, to take with him.  

"The first day out about noon he saw a cow belonging to one of the neighbors which had a young calf.  It didn't look to him like the calf could take all her milk.  He was so hungry that he sure did want some of that milk, but he had nothing to put it in.  Finally he decided to milk some into his bucket of greens and drink it off.  This he did and he said it sure tasted good and the greens were better too.  But the next morning the milk that was left in the bucket was sour and the greens kept getting more sour all the time.  By the time he got home he was good and hungry and he never could eat pig weed greens again.

"He only went to school a few months during the winter for a few years.  The teacher, only one man for all the students in the community, was very strict and knew very little.  He carried a whip or cane all the time with which to punish any one who disobeyed a rule.  Many times he drew blood on the backs of boys who usually only had one shirt to cover them.  Father said that many times his back would begin to bleed when he took his shirt off at night, because it stuck to the sores where the teacher had struck him with his willow switch.  But he never complained at home about being punished for he knew he would be punished again if he did.  Instead of being called George in school, he was nicknamed Jakey by which name he was known by some of his boyhood friends in the Dixie Country.  

"Years later in 1879 after he had moved out to Wayne County, a friend from Dixie happened to be traveling that way, and he asked if anyone could tell him where Jakey Forsyth lived.  The man he asked said there was no Jakey Forsyth who lived any where around there.  While they were talking Father came by.  His friend caught him by the hand and said, 'Why, this man told me you didn't live here.' The other man turned to Father quite bewildered and said, 'Why, I thought your name was George.'  So father told him that Jakey was his nickname among many of his friends.  This man was quite disgusted and said he always thought that Jakey was a nickname for Jacob.

"A few years ago while I was visiting in St. George, I met a Sister Empey.  When she found out who I was, she laughed and said she knew my father and all his family well.  Then she asked me if I had the “gift of gab” like all the other Forsyths.  She told me my father was called “Jakey Faithful” in school because he never failed to get punished every day for something he or someone else had done. 

George James Forsyth is the last entry on this page
of the 1860 SLC Utah US census. He is 16 years of age and listed
with his father and other family members as FOWSITH

"When father was sixteen years old [1860], the Church asked members of the Church that could, take a team and wagon and go out on the plains to meet the poor immigrants who were coming to Utah.  Many of these immigrants had to walk and as the winter would soon be coming on, they should be helped. Father was still very small for his age and not strong enough to do heavy farm work, but he loved animals and could handle horses well, so Grandfather let him take a team and wagon and go with the men who were forming a relief company.  He enjoyed the first trip so much, that he went again the second time to help another train of immigrants.  In all, he was gone more than eight months and when he finally came home; he had grown in weight and height as well as experience.  When he left, he weighed a little more than 90 pounds but on his return, he tipped the scales at 140 pounds."

[In 1963 Neil Snow Forsyth wrote that his grandfather, Thoma's Forsyth,  'was a wagon maker and he made one wagon in Salt Lake City which father (George James Forsyth) used to go back to the Platte River to bring emigrants to Salt Lake. He made two trips back there in 1860 with an 8 mule team. The wagon box was a very large one and father used it as a grain bin all the years we lived in Wayne County. It held 100 bushels.']

"Grandfather had plenty of boys to do his work without Father’s help, so he began going out to help other people.  A number of people hired him to help with their riding after stock or range cattle.  He loved Cattle and horses, and that was the kind of work he liked best to do.  First he earned a riding pony.  Then, most of his pay he took in calves.  Before long, he had a small herd of cattle and some horses of his own.  His Father by this time had moved to Toquerville in the Dixie Country.  His older brother Robert had gone down to Dixie too and had married a girl from Pine Valley and was living there.  As some of the men that Father worked for also lived there he made his head-quarters with his brother Robert.

"He was a pretty good entertainer and almost everyone liked to be in his company and enjoyed the stories he told.  He could always see the amusing side of things that happened and loved a good joke even though it might be on himself.  Well, life went on quite happily for him in Pine Valley and his herd of cattle grew, and he, with the Burgesses, Meeks, Snows, Gardners, Brackens, etc., ran their herds of cattle in the Pine Valley Mountains.  One of the canyons there now is known as Forsyth Canyon.  (It was named for his father as that was where he ran his cattle in those days.)

1870 Toquerville Utah US census for Thomas Forsyth family

When he was 26 years old, October 1, in 1870, he married my mother, Sarah Saphronia Snow, who was then 18 years old. ...  My Grandfather Forsyth was a very religious man, but my father was not.  He had spent too much of his time riding after cattle or freighting since he was fourteen years old that he necessarily missed going to a lot of meetings, but we always had family prayer twice a day in our home, in the morning before breakfast and at night before supper.  I remember many times Father read a chapter from the Bible or Book of Mormon just before breakfast or our evening meal when we older ones were small."
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Spouse: Sarah Sophronia Snow
Married: 31 Oct 1870 Pine Valley, Washington, Utah

Sarah Sophronia Snow and George James Forsyth
circa 1870

Died: 6 February 1927 Bountiful, Davis, Utah
Buried: 11 February 1927 Salt Lake City, Salt Lake, Utah


* Several pioneer era journal/histories contribute to information above. Spelling was not standardized so names of people and places often vary significantly. When possible I have inserted my best research/understanding [thus] in square brackets - all square bracketed information is my insertion unless otherwise noted. As needed for clarity and to help the reader not puzzle about meanings, in the rendering here I have added some punctuation and made minor corrections that are not  indicated. Speaking odd spellings aloud may help to understand the text. I will note source information when it is available. I do not own originals but am willing to share photocopies [or scanned images] of original documents. Some are handwritten, some are transcriptions and some are typed. 




Monday, March 5, 2012

SARAH SOPHRONIA SNOW death


Sarah Sophronia Forsyth nee Snow 
   Died: 5 March 1927, 
          Bountiful, Davis, Utah, USA
   Buried8 March 1927, 
            Salt Lake City, Salt Lake, Utah, USA


I found a copy of Sarah's death certificate on line here.



When we traveled to Salt Lake a few years ago to visit our son and his family, they lived in the 'Avenues' near the Salt Lake Cemetery. We took a walk through the well manicured graveyard and photographed some of the final resting spots of several ancestors. Although that day was quite warm we enjoyed the cool shade of the many large trees and the quiet peace of the open park. 


We discovered many Forsyth's listed there
and even knew where some fit onto family records.


We also visited the Sexton's office to review the records there. The Interment Books list every grave with locations identified on blocks, lots and tiers of plots.

For additional information about Sarah's husband George James see my blog post for his death. They died within a month of each other.

I am one one side of the room.  You can see my toes.
The silver metal in the picture is the other side.

We were given permission to take photos and spent an afternoon perusing the various huge books kept there in a tiny room. We were learning to use a digital camera so some photos are not clear and the exposures are odd.

Sarah Snow Forsyth's name is near the bottom of the page. 

I opened a cropped version of the page (above) that shows Sarah's interment in a photo editing program and added a couple red arrows to help identify her name.


We also photographed Lot 13 burial records and the Lot Ownership Record.


From 'The Life of Sarah Sophronia Snow Forsyth' * we read, "Sarah developed cancer, and suffered with it for many years. One time she said she was ready to go, if her husband died, but she had not wanted to die and leave him behind. Her prayers were answered in this. In the fall of 1926 George took ill and was hospitalized in Salt Lake, at the LDS hospital.

"At this time, Sariah Lott [a step-sister], a daughter of Lydia Leavitt and William Snow, came to stay a few weeks with Sarah ... Chloe, another sister, came to stay for a few days [also] ...

"On 5 February 1927, George [Sarah's husband] died. The doctor said that Sarah could not last very long, so Mary stayed with the mother, Florence lived nearby, and along with Tom, they nurse the mother with tender care. Neil, John and Frank came from Canada, Mary from California and Bell from Nevada [for their father's funeral]. They all showed their mother every kindness and although she may have suffered, she never murmured or made a complaint. One month later she passed away. She had said she wanted to die with George, and she came as close as she could. They had lived a full life, they had done the best they could. The Bishop of Bountiful, a cousin, Ed. Snow of St George and a lady from Wayne County all paid tribute to her.

"The last two stanzas of a poem read at her funeral are:

"Your heart has ever sought for truth and beauty
You've found them where others found but strife,
You've taught us how to dignify our duty
And love our life.

"You made the worst yield up its best in somewise,
So the fragrance of your youth clings round you still,
Your influence so sweet, yet strong and lasting
As a rock clad hill."

The 7 living children of George and Sarah Forsyth all attended their father's funeral. Sarah knew she would 'follow' her husband soon and asked those from great distances to not incur the expense of another trip to attend hers. They bade her farewell and granted their mother her express request. John, Frank, and Neil from Alberta Canada and Bell from Lund Nevada did not return when she passed away one month later. **



* 'The Life of Sarah Sophronia Snow Forsyth,' is a typed, single spaced, 3 page history. A copy in my possession  is stapled to a similar 6 page history of Sally Adams Snow. Neither document identifies its author. Both are clearly photo copies and were given to me before I knew that sources should be carefully noted.  


** See Neil Snow Forsyth History by Ruth Horne chapter 5 - 1919 to 1940, page 6.




Thursday, February 23, 2012

GOLDEN WEDDING ANNIVERSARIES

February is known as a time for 'romance'.

Recently my Aunt Ruth Horne sent me what I think is a very romantic news article. It is also a special tribute to our ancestors. She said the news came from Paul B Skouson's second book 'More Amazing Mormon World Records'.  The children of my grandparent's set the record for the most siblings to see Golden Wedding Anniversaries.


I have a snapshot of the couples taken in 1994 at the Seattle Temple. They attended a session together as part of a celebration of the 80th birthday of the eldest living brother.  Do you happen to have a copy that is more clear?

I quote from the news article dated May 2011:
" The Neil and Chloe Forsyth family have set a remarkable record in LDS living. All 8 of our Great grandparents lived in Nauvoo in the 1840's. Our parents and grandparents on the Forsyth line all celebrated their 50th wedding anniversaries. All seven of Neil's [living] children celebrated 50th wedding anniversaries. This year (2011) 3 of them will have celebrated their 65th."

George James and Sarah Sophronia (Snow) Forsyth [my father's grandparents] were married 31 Oct 1870 in Pine Valley, Washington, Utah. He was 26 and she was 18. They celebrated 57 anniversaries. They died within a month of each other in February and March 1927. My father was born that year.

Neil Snow and Chloe Roseltha (Hatch) Forsyth [my father's parents] were married 20 Dec 1911 in Salt Lake, Salt Lake, Utah. He was 32 and she was 25. They celebrated 51 anniversaries. She died at age 76 in 1962 just prior to their 52nd anniversary.

The oldest son of Neil and Chloe, Rex, gave his life in World War II.
His wife Ruth [Chic] made the ultimate sacrifice.
Her husband died fighting for our freedoms.

Thomas Rex and  Ruth Elizabeth (Campbell) Forsyth were married 9 May 1941 at Magrath, Alberta, Canada. He died at age 32 just before their 3 anniversary.

Neil Scott and Gladys Boyce (Butler) Forsyth were married 14 Decemeber 1939. They celebrated their 50th anniversary in 1989.

George Kenneth and June Hartley (Hinman) Forsyth were married 12 May 1943. They celebrated their 50th anniversary in 1993, a 60th in 2003 and their 65th in 2008.

Mylo Wilfred and Matilda (Maier) Forsyth were married 12 July 1946. They celebrated their 50th anniversary in 1996, a 60th in 2006 and their 65th in 2011.

Duane H and Verna (Neilson) Forsyth were married 3 April 1945. They celebrated their 50th anniversary in 1995.

Robert [Bob] Martin and Ruth (Forsyth) Horne were married 27 December 1945.  They celebrated their 50th anniversary in 1995, a 60th in 2005 and their 65th in 2010.

Garth Dean and Elna Jean (Campbell) Forsyth were married 14 October 1948. They celebrated their 50th anniversary in 1998, a 60th in 2008.

Byrce H and June Doreen (Volk) Forsyth were married 23 Feb 1955. They celebrated their 50th anniversary in 2005.

My mother's parents, William [Bill] David and Elna (Bohne) Campbell, were married 22 Dec 1926 in the Cardston, Alberta temple. He was 25 and she was nearing 18. They celebrated 63 anniversaries. He died at age 89 in 1990.

That is impressive - and romantic.
My parent's have been married 64 years this year.
They are an example to all of us.

The longest know marriage was an astounding 91 years. He was 12 and she was 14 when they were married. The longest marriage on record today is 87 years. The couple live in the United Kingdom. In New Mexico in the United States a living couple has been married for 83 years.

If you want to have a record breaking length of marriage you may need to live a LONG time. These people have all lived amazingly long lives.

There are some amazing World records for families having the most with the longest marriages.  I found such a record on a random blog when I was searching for some other links.  This family (non LDS) have a large family with 10 of their siblings all celebrating their Golden Wedding Anniversaries.

Although many of my ancestors did not live long lives, all stayed married to their spouses. That is a decision. That is work, and tenacity, and determination, and love - love for each other, love for their posterity and love for God and His commandments.


Monday, February 6, 2012

GEORGE JAMES FORSYTH death

Sarah Sophronia (Snow) and George James Forsyth

My father's paternal Grandfather,
George James Forsyth,
died on 6 February 1927 in Bountiful, Utah.


He was 83 years of old when he passed away.
His wife, Sarah Sophronia Snow,
would die just one month later.

They were married for 57 years.
They are buried together in Salt Lake City, Utah.

Forsyth plot looking North East.
Special thanks to Monica Snarr
for generously sharing her photos.
On 27 February my grandfather, Neil Snow Forsyth, recorded in his journal, "I received word that Father had passed away in Bountiful, Utah February 6th. I laid my men [doing carpentry] off until I got back. I phoned John on his farm, and Frank in Magrath [Alberta, Canada] and the 3 of us left for Utah the next morning on the train.

taken by Monica Snarr for 'Find A Grave'

"We attended Father's funeral in Bountiful on February 11th. I left to return home the next morning. Mother was very low with cancer and said she would soon follow father. All seven of their [living] children were there for Father's funeral. We had a good visit with Mother and she said not to come back for her funeral as it would not be long till she would go." **

Interment Book showing Forsyths
buried in Salt Lake City, Utah cemetery
A few years ago while visiting a son and his family in Salt Lake my husband and I visited the cemetery and, with permission, took some digital photographs of the Sexton's records there.


We also photographed some of the pages of the huge books showing the blocks, lots and ownership records.

We  located and again with permission photographed the interment records for George James Forsyth.



When we found the record for George James Forsyth we noticed his mother is also buried in the same lot, in a nearby plot.

Photo taken by Monica Snarr
Headstone of Isabella Donald Forsyth,
 mother of George James Forsyth.

A granddaughter with a keen sense of family history, Ruth Horne (daughter of Neil Snow Forsyth), visited the plot with us and identified the nearby broken and eroded red sandstone marker as Isabelle's grave stone.

photo by Monica Snarr
The Sexton's office also verifies that this location is her grave.


Family had her name and the name of one of her daughter's, Sevela D Forsyth, engraved on the back of the newer marker. We really appreciate Monica Snarr  posting  such pictures on 'Find A Grave' for us all to share.

Photo by Monica Snarr. (Chestnut/Behunin)
Forsyth lot looking south across plots
shows monuments in context.
 Gravestone for Thomas W. Forsyth
on left is a son to George and Sarah Forsyth.
The red sandstone marker near centre of photo  
is for the mother of George James Forsyth, 
Isabella Forsyth nee Donald.
This photo looking South West shows the back of the Forsyth headstone 'in context'  and also shows the back of the red sandstone marker. (We found this photo posted on Find a Grave by Chesunt/Behunin in November 2010)


The death certificate for George shows he had been 'attended' by a doctor for about a month before he died. Journals tell of the tender and loving care he received from his family.

I met some of his descendants at a Forsyth Reunion in Welling, Alberta, Canada in 1987. Some of his grandchildren and great grandchildren and even their children attended. How many of these cousins can you identify?

left to right:  D.R. Forsyth 1910, Alice his wife;
Mar Draper 1917; Ava Jensen 1912 [Elmer];
Wayne Draper [Mar's spouse]; Bell Smith 1914 [Travers];
Rhea Forsyth 1921; Donna Purnell;
Charles Heap Forsyth 1915, Thea his wife;
Glen Purnell [Donna's spouse]
Note: 2013 these are children of John James Forsyth 1881 [Jennie Heaps]
He and his family were well educated, industrious and hard working. Their names are found peppered through the history of the LDS church, the Mormon migration and pioneer settlement stories, and other historical records in the places they lived and worked.

Members of this family wrote personal journals and kept family histories. Many, many records are available to document my great grandfather's life. I am just beginning a quest to learn about him and his family. Reading them and collating the data in them will take a bit of time.

I am willing to share the information our family has.

What about you?
Did you know the Forsyth's or the Snow's?

Do you know of records I might read and research or copy?

**Neil Snow Forsyth History 
Chapter 5 - 1919 to 1940 page 6 compiled 1996 by daughter, Ruth Horne (Robert)